BEDELL: I served from 2007 to 2011, so I wasn't the first one in, and I wasn't the last one out. I was kind of right there in the middle during the Afghan surge. People were still very supportive of veterans. Maybe some of the novelty had worn off - maybe not a standing ovation but discounts and general appreciation, even in places where the support for the wars was not there. So I think that is probably a hope for - a positive difference between this war and some of maybe our past wars, particularly Vietnam, where the unpopularity of the war really was transferred to the veterans. And I think also, hopefully, we've moved past some of the performative aspects to more meaningful support for veterans, both - you know, I personally benefited from the GI Bill when I went to law school - and more meaningful support for the challenges that people have when they come back.
MARTIN: You mentioned this, the Vietnam War and how the veterans of that war were not welcomed home. I mean, that's an understatement. And the mental anguish of that generation of veterans wasn't really acknowledged. I mean, they called it shell shock then. We do now understand it as post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD.